I’m very pleased to highlight these important aspects of gendered war. My name is Dr Amanda Chisholm and I am a Senior Lecturer in the School of Security Studies. In this interview, I’m speaking with one of the leading experts on men and masculinities in the context of conflict and peacebuilding, Dr Henri Myrttinen. Dr Myrttinen is currently a Co-Investigator in the Masculinities and Sexualities research stream of the Gender, Justice and Security Hub of the LSE WPS Centre. He has worked extensively on gender, conflict and peacebuilding for a number of NGOs and his prolific can be found in international journals and state of the art edited book volumes. He joins us from Yangon, Myanmar to discuss his research.
Q: Henri, you’ve said that whilst engaging with men and boys in fragile and conflict-affected situations is not new, the vast majority of these interventions don’t consider the role masculinities play in influencing and directing male behaviour. What do we mean by ‘masculinities’?
Masculinities are the various ways of being and acting, values and expectations associated with being and becoming a man in a given society, location and time period.
Around the world most of the people carrying weapons – soldiers, guerrilla fighters, terrorists etc, are men, and those involved in brokering and keeping the peace in countries are also predominantly men. Yet we seldom think about the way in which their gender – the way they are expected to be men – influences their attitudes, behaviours and their choices, which I term the ‘invisibility of masculinities’ in conflict settings.
We need to further interrogate how gender influences the way soldiers and peacekeepers see the world, and, as a consequence, the way masculinities and the expectations on men shape our world.
Q: We hear the term ‘toxic masculinity’ bandied around a lot, often to describe misogynistic, abusive and sexist behaviour, although there’s no universally accepted definition for this term. Do you think using this label does more harm than good?
Whilst it’s a simple and easy term to use, because there is no accepted definition it encompasses lots of different types of masculinities and papers over the differences and nuances.
Furthermore, a key difficulty with using the term is that the acceptability of certain behaviours changes over time, both historically and situationally, and depending on whose perspective is examined. For example, young men and boys in gangs may see their violence as acceptable and as a protest against oppression, while broader society may see their masculinities as antisocial. Broader society may laud hard policing masculinities as the right answer to these gangs, while the communities the gang members come from may see this as oppressive and representative of historical biases.
Whilst the term is a good entry point, we need to unpack the individual masculinities it describes and analyse the historical and economic contexts in which they’re produced, so we can be more nuanced and understanding in what we’re talking about in a particular context.